Thursday, February 06, 2014

Star Wars update

 So Zak Efron heightened everyone's fears when he confirmed that he has spoken to casting agents for Episode 7 and I wouldn't put it passed Disney to hire him either. Can you imagine Star Wars fans pretending to be ok with this if they actually put him in the movie?!

I'd be interested to see.

 Now back to my growing collection of the Expanded Universe. I just picked up all the old issues of Challenge Magazine which produced mini-games for the West End Games RPG's. It's up for debate whether they had the authority to do so and some of it's content is disputed as "canon" as is.

But I just finished reading them all and it all looks like it could easily be fit into canon with no problem at all. In fact, some of their adventure ideas were pretty good! I'm glad I got the entire set!
And now for the sad news. Author Christie Golden just confirmed that her new book featuring Jaina Solo titled "Sword of the Jedi" has been put on hold due to the Story Group

Which means Disney's Death Star is hovering around the planet EU and there's little hope for this Rebel Alliance to pull out a victory.

The sad thing is I know exactly what's going to happen. They're going to wait until Dark Horse finishes in 2014 before they denounce EVERYTHING. That's right. Think about it.

They can't say anything yet because you wouldn't buy the books coming out now. (comic or novels) It's a call from the Lucas playbook to lure the fans into spending a lot of money then screwing them over in the end.

As I've said before, I'm out if they do so. In fact, I'm perfectly happy with the collection I've got. If 2014 is it for me then so be it. I've almost got my collection completed, just have the Wizards of the Coast RPG's left to go and I'll be done. At that point it'll be all too easy to walk away.

But until then I'm going to hold out all hope that Disney cares about the hard core Star Wars fans and their loyalty toward the Expanded Universe.

Now all I need is a farm boy who can use the Force....

6 comments:

Unknown said...

I think you have a valid point about waiting until Dark Horse is finished with its run to announce the fate of the EU. However, I doubt they're gonna wipe the slate clean completely. What I do think is likely to happen, is they they're gonna clean house. Get rid of the stuff that in hindsight is laughable. I mean the Emperor's sons, the old Star Wars Goosebumps novels, that kind of thing will be wiped away wholly. Others are probably gonna be tweaked, (a lot already has been since the prequels) so as to not alienate the majority of fans.

I still think you're overreacting a bit though. The old Marvel comics were retconned like crazy and no one made a stink about all that 'canon' being wiped away. I mean Jabba the Hutt was a bipedal dude in the original comics. Splinter of the Mind's Eye had stuff in it that the EU later contradicts, and The Clone Wars reinstates (Kaiburr crystals). Change has never been anything new to the continuity, and they've never wiped anything completely away, so again...patience.

kidcardco said...

I'd call eliminating everything for Return of the Jedi on (which is the rumor) a little more than "tweeting" wouldn't' you?

Splinter in the Minds Eye fits well within continuity and Marvel's books have a half retcon/canon factor to them that I'd love Pablo Hilgado to explain to me sometime.

The Emporor only had one rumored son and it was explained later on that it may have been a trick by the Emporor to tell him that in the first place.

Star Wars Galaxy of Fear (Goosebumps) were made for kids so you gotta give them a little break. In actuality they really weren't that bad!

We need our own talk show my friend. Though we disagree on a lot I love your passion all the same.

You wouldn't happen to know of an exhaust port on the whole "Disney Death Star" thing would you?

Unknown said...

Grr, I responded to this on my ipad, but google ate it. Anyway, my point about the kids books is that it seems like you want an all or nothing approach when it comes to the EU being kept together. And those kids books prove (at least to me) that some culling of that content *needs* to happen. A lot of the EU stuff may not contradict anything in the SW7, but if it does, I'm prepared to disregard it. That's been the canon stance since the EU began. pablo Hidalgo's introduction to the essential reader's giude puts it out there in no uncertain terms: "Though these stories get his (Lucas') stamp of approval, they don't enter his canon unless they are depicted cinematically in one of his projects." and "...the Star Wars Expanded Universe is a living document that grows and evolves over time."

Now, Story Group has the control over EU that George once had. Since both Hidalgo, Dave Filoni, and Leland Chee are in Story Group, you have a few people that might side with you on the importance of the EU, and very well might see references to things in the EU. But as far as adapting EU stories to make into (live action) films? Never in a million years.

Man, if I could figure out the logistics of doing a podcast or talkshow for this I'd do it in a heartbeat.

kidcardco said...

I hate posting on my iPad too.

The Story Group that wad assigned has a deep respect for Star Wars and I know the "levels" on cannon, it doesn't change the fact that most of the EU never contradicts the movies. It was all wrapped up in beautiful continuity between multiple media tie-ins.

Before the prequel movies talking about life before Episode 4 was generally forbidden. Therefore when the prequel came out everything fir nicely within the cross-media story line.

With Episode 7 we have Disney wanting us to disregard this past for their own version of the story. And they have the right to. They bought it. It's theirs.

But to kick sand in the EU fans faces, turn your beck on the very thing that saved Star Wars from drifting into obscurity and insulting all authors and artist involved by disregarding their stories as nothing but fan fiction, I can't abhor.

I know you care little for EU and that's fine. It's not for everyone I understand that.

But Star Wars was the ONLY "multi-media" universe where everything tied in. It's what made it unique for me. Take away that uniqueness and you'll lose fans.

Not enough to damage the movie or the Saga, but don't be surprised if some folks want to start a Rebellion over the Disney Empire.

Unknown said...

Well, let me correct a little misconception (or two) in your statement there.
George Lucas decided to do sequel films, not Disney. This was in the works a long while before Disney bought the rights. These new movies will be DIRECTLY taken from Lucas's story treatments for Eps 7-9, as well as outlines for 10-12, I believe. it's all
here

To your second point. I did at one time love the EU. I ate it up, just as you say, because it filled that void. I see it more as a babysitter that we had to endure until the parents came back. Sure, we had fun with the babysitter, the babysitter might've let us do things our parents wouldn't and we may still play games that remember playing with them, but a babysitter can't replace your parents. And when they would get home, even if we didn't like it the parents overruled the babysitter. I LOVED Dark Empire, but in hindsight it just doesn't work as well as it did in the early 90s. I ate up everything they threw at us for Shadows of the Empire, I still hold that up as one of my favorite projects. But I can now set those aside, even though I *still* love them, the parents have come home so to speak.

Unknown said...

I came across this little nugget in that article by Hidalgo I linked for you too.

"As George Lucas began preparing his treatments for future films, I’d get random requests for research from his office, and helped prepare documents, primers and writer guides for the next generation of Star Wars filmmakers, whoever they may be."

So that leads me to believe that George was mindful at least to some degree of the EU if he's asking Pablo for research material in writing those sequel films.

So perhaps you have... A New Hope?